Dear associating IoTers,
Over the course of the last months we got some feedback from the German
tax
authorities regarding our articles of association. To be able to apply
for a
tax reduction as an association for common goods we had to make some
(minor)
changes. The essential points we agreed on should still be reflected in
the
updated version though.
To move forward we ask every founding member to read the updated version
and clearly state their agreement or disagreement. Minutes will
summarize this process and eventually evolving discussions.
For your convenience, besides the complete markdown and pdf files, a
diff file is attached, showing changes between the version subject to
the last vote and the updated current version with the feedback of the
tax office and cosmetic changes. (online beautified version here [1])
Best, Thomas
[1]
https://github.com/RIOT-OS/riotev_articles/compare/e56300463d320f8b...2nd_f…
Hi Thomas,
March 22nd to 25th is immediately before the IETF - I plan to be in
either N.Y. or Chicago at that time (in case the U.S. do survive until
then and will let me in).
Regarding next week: I'm only in Berlin on Friday - I can ask the notary
about a date, but cannot tell.
What should be done before: We need a documented agreement on the latest
state of the Satzung. This basically means
(1) The final state should be distributed per email
(2) Every member should ack an agree (or disagree)
(3) Short minutes should be written about this process.
Then the final Satzung + all minutes need to be taken to the notary ...
details I can try to clarify on Thursday.
Cheers,
Thomas
On 16.01.2017 18:21, Thomas Eichinger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thomas is right, according to the german Vereinsgesetz we the
> association is founded and represents a legal instance. Benefits and
> available actions are limited though until the association is
> registered.
>
> Regarding the notary appointment, I will be in Berlin from March 22nd to
> 25th if Hauke and Thomas are available on one of those days.
>
> (Thomas, if I'd tell you on Wednesday I am in Berlin next week, would it
> be realistic to still get a notary appointment? Would you and Hauke be
> available?)
>
> Best, Thomas
>
> On 13 Jan 2017, at 2:46 PST(-0800), Thomas C. Schmidt wrote:
>
>> Hi Emmanuel,
>>
>> yes, I guess, but I'm not sure how 'executable' this is.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Thomas
>>
>> On 13.01.2017 11:44, Emmanuel Baccelli wrote:
>>> OK, so I guess the answer to my question is:
>>> the association already has legal status.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Emmanuel
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Thomas C. Schmidt
>>> <t.schmidt(a)haw-hamburg.de <mailto:t.schmidt@haw-hamburg.de>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Emmanuel, (switching list)
>>>
>>> according to the lady of the tax office, RIOT e.V. is founded (by
>>> the founding assembly) and thus exists. However, it is not
>>> "eingetragen" (that's the 'e.') in the Vereinsregistergericht.
>>>
>>> We're waiting for Thomas ... and it would actually be helpful to
>>> come to some plan, here - Thomas??
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> On 13.01.2017 10:36, Emmanuel Baccelli wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>
>>> some Inria folks I met this week in Paris were asking whether
>>> or not
>>> RIOT e.V. exists legally already (even if some steps are
>>> still
>>> ahead of us).
>>> What should I answer them?
>>>
>>> Long story short: it could be that the idea of consortium
>>> with
>>> RIOT e.V.
>>> as partner surfaces again soonish, and I'm trying to prepare
>>> for
>>> that.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Emmanuel
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt
>>> <t.schmidt(a)haw-hamburg.de <mailto:t.schmidt@haw-hamburg.de>
>>> <mailto:t.schmidt@haw-hamburg.de
>>> <mailto:t.schmidt@haw-hamburg.de>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> presently there is no tentative date - except some time
>>> in
>>> March.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15.12.2016 11:56, Emmanuel Baccelli wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> is there some news on this?
>>> I seem to recall (USA) Thomas was needed f2f to sign
>>> something?
>>> Is this actually happening during Christmas break?
>>>
>>> @Thomas any updates on this?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Emmanuel
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt
>>> ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences
>>> Berliner
>>> Tor 7 °
>>> ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099
>>> Hamburg,
>>> Germany °
>>> ° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon:
>>> +49-40-42875-8452 <tel:%2B49-40-42875-8452>
>>> <tel:%2B49-40-42875-8452> °
>>> ° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt
>>> <http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt>
>>> <http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt
>>> <http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt>> Fax:
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt
>>> ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences
>>> Berliner
>>> Tor 7 °
>>> ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099
>>> Hamburg,
>>> Germany °
>>> ° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon:
>>> +49-40-42875-8452 <tel:%2B49-40-42875-8452> °
>>> ° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt
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>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt
>> ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner
>> Tor 7 °
>> ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg,
>> Germany °
>> ° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon:
>> +49-40-42875-8452 °
>> ° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt Fax:
>> +49-40-42875-8409 °
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° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner Tor 7 °
° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg, Germany °
° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon: +49-40-42875-8452 °
° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt Fax: +49-40-42875-8409 °
Hi Emmanuel,
yes, I guess, but I'm not sure how 'executable' this is.
Cheers,
Thomas
On 13.01.2017 11:44, Emmanuel Baccelli wrote:
> OK, so I guess the answer to my question is:
> the association already has legal status.
> Thanks,
> Emmanuel
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Thomas C. Schmidt
> <t.schmidt(a)haw-hamburg.de <mailto:t.schmidt@haw-hamburg.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi Emmanuel, (switching list)
>
> according to the lady of the tax office, RIOT e.V. is founded (by
> the founding assembly) and thus exists. However, it is not
> "eingetragen" (that's the 'e.') in the Vereinsregistergericht.
>
> We're waiting for Thomas ... and it would actually be helpful to
> come to some plan, here - Thomas??
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>
> On 13.01.2017 10:36, Emmanuel Baccelli wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> some Inria folks I met this week in Paris were asking whether or not
> RIOT e.V. exists legally already (even if some steps are still
> ahead of us).
> What should I answer them?
>
> Long story short: it could be that the idea of consortium with
> RIOT e.V.
> as partner surfaces again soonish, and I'm trying to prepare for
> that.
>
> Cheers
>
> Emmanuel
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt
> <t.schmidt(a)haw-hamburg.de <mailto:t.schmidt@haw-hamburg.de>
> <mailto:t.schmidt@haw-hamburg.de
> <mailto:t.schmidt@haw-hamburg.de>>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> presently there is no tentative date - except some time in
> March.
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>
>
> On 15.12.2016 11:56, Emmanuel Baccelli wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> is there some news on this?
> I seem to recall (USA) Thomas was needed f2f to sign
> something?
> Is this actually happening during Christmas break?
>
> @Thomas any updates on this?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Emmanuel
>
>
> --
>
> Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt
> ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences
> Berliner
> Tor 7 °
> ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099
> Hamburg,
> Germany °
> ° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon:
> +49-40-42875-8452 <tel:%2B49-40-42875-8452>
> <tel:%2B49-40-42875-8452> °
> ° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt
> <http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt>
> <http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt
> <http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt>> Fax:
> +49-40-42875-8409 <tel:%2B49-40-42875-8409>
> <tel:%2B49-40-42875-8409> °
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> <mailto:internal@riot-os.org <mailto:internal@riot-os.org>>
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> <https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/internal>
> <https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/internal
> <https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/internal>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt
> ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner
> Tor 7 °
> ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg,
> Germany °
> ° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon:
> +49-40-42875-8452 <tel:%2B49-40-42875-8452> °
> ° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt
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> <https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/association>
>
>
--
Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt
° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner Tor 7 °
° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg, Germany °
° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon: +49-40-42875-8452 °
° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt Fax: +49-40-42875-8409 °
Hi Emmanuel, (switching list)
according to the lady of the tax office, RIOT e.V. is founded (by the
founding assembly) and thus exists. However, it is not "eingetragen"
(that's the 'e.') in the Vereinsregistergericht.
We're waiting for Thomas ... and it would actually be helpful to come to
some plan, here - Thomas??
Cheers,
Thomas
On 13.01.2017 10:36, Emmanuel Baccelli wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> some Inria folks I met this week in Paris were asking whether or not
> RIOT e.V. exists legally already (even if some steps are still ahead of us).
> What should I answer them?
>
> Long story short: it could be that the idea of consortium with RIOT e.V.
> as partner surfaces again soonish, and I'm trying to prepare for that.
>
> Cheers
>
> Emmanuel
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Thomas C. Schmidt
> <t.schmidt(a)haw-hamburg.de <mailto:t.schmidt@haw-hamburg.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> presently there is no tentative date - except some time in March.
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>
>
> On 15.12.2016 11:56, Emmanuel Baccelli wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> is there some news on this?
> I seem to recall (USA) Thomas was needed f2f to sign something?
> Is this actually happening during Christmas break?
>
> @Thomas any updates on this?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Emmanuel
>
>
> --
>
> Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt
> ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner
> Tor 7 °
> ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg,
> Germany °
> ° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon:
> +49-40-42875-8452 <tel:%2B49-40-42875-8452> °
> ° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt
> <http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt> Fax:
> +49-40-42875-8409 <tel:%2B49-40-42875-8409> °
> _______________________________________________
> internal mailing list
> internal(a)riot-os.org <mailto:internal@riot-os.org>
> https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/internal
> <https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/internal>
>
>
--
Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt
° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner Tor 7 °
° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg, Germany °
° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon: +49-40-42875-8452 °
° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt Fax: +49-40-42875-8409 °
